Thursday, November 17, 2011

Response from my mom, Week 6 on "Water to Wine."

I had some time tonight as I had to have a snack before bed so I read your week 6 blog.  There are two comments I have:

1)      there are times in the bible that having wine is ok; it is all relative as to how and when; whether over-indulging and ruining your life or relaxing and enjoying life. 

2)      I disagree about your comment:   "And that's why religion hates science. That's why science and religion can never coexist as two sides of the same coin. Science disproves religion, science destroys the usefulness of religion, and when you're in the business of power and control like religion has been for thousands of years, it's going to piss you off."

            Christians don’t have a problem with science, and I have seen science in a lot of areas and in a lot of studies involving Christianity.  In fact, I believe God created science, and he knows far more than what we have discovered.  Also, there isn’t any reason that he wouldn’t use science in some of his miracles.
 Your comment about how God created science is ignorant and untrue. To believe that statement, you must first believe that God is real at all, which is absolutely absurd to someone like myself. Secondly you must consciously reject the facts and evidence of the contrary WITHIN YOUR OWN BIBLE. In the very beginning of the book, God forbade Adam and Eve to eat of the "Tree of Knowledge" and exiled them for doing so. It's why we have sin in the world, death, disease, why women have pain during child birth, everything is a punishment for human curiosity. Religious leaders have followed suit throughout the years since the Bible was written (by men). Galileo was harassed, and eventually condemned from the church for "heresy" upon his death. . William Ockham, Conrad Gessner, Gregor Mendel, Aristotle, Pierre-Simon Laplace, Charles Darwin, Democritus, Nicolaus Copernicus, the hundreds of thousands of "free-thinkers" murdered during The Dark Ages, The Middle Ages, The Renaissance, etc.

Read more here: and don't say "Oh that's the CATHOLIC church," because for well over 1000 years and up until now even, the Catholic church has been the largest denomination of Christianity and the largest in power, infact most denominations stemmed from Catholicism. Read this again as well, go through the list and see how many scientists, astronomers, philosophers, mathematicians, and scholars were executed because of "heresy" or just because.

- In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities.
- The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.
- Already in 385 C.E. the first Christians, the Spanish Priscillianus and six followers, were beheaded for heresy in Trier/Germany.
- Manichaean heresy: a crypto-Christian sect decent enough to practice birth control (and thus not as irresponsible as faithful Catholics) was exterminated in huge campaigns all over the Roman empire between 372 C.E. and 444 C.E. Numerous thousands of victims.
- John Huss, a critic of papal infallibility and indulgences, was burned at the stake in 1415.
- University professor B.Hubmaier burned at the stake 1538 in Vienna.
- Giordano Bruno, Dominican monk, after having been incarcerated for seven years, was burned at the stake for heresy on the Campo dei Fiori (Rome) on 2/17/1600
- Thomas Aikenhead, a twenty-year-old scottish student of Edinburgh University, was hanged for atheism and blasphemy.

Read also this link Anti-Gnosticism in latin literally translates to Anti-Knowledge, anti being against and gnosticism being knowledge.

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Please, don't try to tell me that science and religion are friends.

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